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to “loser with the big L!”

• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

  I think PPSMI is a stupid policy and will not achieve its objective. It is simply a waste of time and money to go against your nature. If improving English is the main concern why not stop using Malay or Tamil or Mandarin and start using English as mother tongue. No matter how good you are in English, you still can’t beat the understanding of someone who’s mother tongue is English. To excel in Science and Mathematics and to create innovation is all about investing money and inculcating the culture of innovation. Language is a medium for people to understand and by communicating with the language they understand it is better than communicating in language they don’t really understand.
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 2:13 pm

  Zack, good opinion! The way PPSMI was implemented was wrong (it waste a lot of money), however the objective is right.

  I’ve been involved in PPSMI training – trust me, you can’t avoid a scientific term in English – and that’s what I said – teaching in English is not about improving the person’s English language skill – but creating an initiative for student to have extra effort to read and write in English.

  Teaching English with a basic sentence like ‘Aminah is cooking breakfast’ is so 80′s and long gone – to me if teaching English like ‘Aminah is dividing her 10 cats into two cages equally, how many will she’ve on each cage’- That is so much more fun and the use of English in most exciting way – and that’s I call a pure innovation.
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 2:32 pm

  Zack another point, – “It is simply a waste of time and money to go against your nature.” – maybe this sound a bit rude, does Nabi Muhammad SAW preaching Islam to Quraisy is against the nature of Arab people – I think he never give up for at least 10 years; – I think we create our own nature, we create our own boundaries and changes is always ‘asing’ to us all;
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 3:12 pm

  I am a professional translator and I think the government should spend money on translation projects. Instead they waste their time to teach maths and science teachers a language! Perhaps what the government should do is to give the teachers a course in translation. It is better. The way I think it is that English is a second language and no matter what we do, write or teach or speak in English it will always comes second after the people whose English is the first language! Another interesting news today is that China and Singapore top the innovation survey while US is slipping further. Some are predicting the end of the Atlantic century. Now would that mean in the future, we will be learning Science and Maths in Mandarin since we want to access the original research in Chinese or even Japanese?
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

  Had this methodology is correct, the Quran would have been in Greek or Persian or Chinese because they were great civilizations then hence the language of knowledge. Yet the Quran is in Arabic the language that the prophet spoke. Now would this tell you something?
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

  That’s translation come handy tho… so now I get your point; But I do think in the future, every each person should come handy with not just one or two language; My opinion on PPSMI is, it was blown out of proportion as political tools to win Malays vote; I think what ever money spend by government on PPSMI is totally unjustified – but to take step back is a totally wrong move;
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 3:53 pm

  Zack, they were not great civilizations, western for ages change our mindset in history book to think they were great.. they stole most of the technology from Islamic Civilization… on Quran thingy – I reserved my comment – nanti org ckp my Tauhid salah pulak – hahaha – but I’ve my personal opinion on that – which is quite bold; To me Quran is so beautiful – no matter either it’s in arabic, english, malay or chinese.
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 4:20 pm

  The Quran did mention Rome and Persia were the great empires then in Surah ar Rum. Now to my next point, how can Malay language grows without it being the language of knowledge. I am a translator and I know it is very difficult to translate technical document. Yet because of this difficulty, it forces me to research about the subject hence I learn something new. It is a way to learn knowledge. How do you think Islamic thinkers became great? They were first translators who were forced to learn about the knowledge in order to make the knowledge better understood by the wider population. We lack good academic book in Malay partly because those who are smart does not know how to communicate the knowledge in Malay. You can depend too much on the translators because they are expert in translation. Eventually it is these experts in each field who have to make sure the translation is correct.
• budleee Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

  translation yah..

  saya suka bermain dengan Stesen Mainan Sony. Saya amat meminati batang gembira stesen mainan Sony itu. Tetapi pada minggu lepas saya telah di jemput ke rumah rakan saya yang di Kuala Lumpur di dalam sebuah bangunan yang di gelar Daun Maple mempunyai Nitendo Wii. Batang gembira konsul itu tanpa wayar dan ia mampu bergetar di tangan saya. Saya menaip pendapat ini di Penjajah Internet. Riba atas saya mengunnakan sisten operasi Vista. Saya amat meminati riba atas ini kerana ia mempunyai 4 bas siri universal.

  okay enough sarcasm..

  Zack, why are you belittling the effort of people learning English. I mean any new things have teething problems, I am pretty sure when we made the change from Jawi to Rumi there were problems. More and more kids are fluent in English faster than you or I can imagine, thanks to Astro and the Internet (Astro without the Malay dubbing). Even the children in Rural areas, my cousin got A in her English, Math and Science even though she lives in Kg without anyone speaking English to her at home. Come on la, there is improvement now, even the teachers are not complaining (not that much la), since it will benefit them since they will understand their children who likes the western culture. We won’t put you out of business if that is what worries you, I think it would flourish since more non Malay speaking people would want to learn Malay hence the need for translators. Chill out man, with a batang gembira yang di hubungkan dengan Stesen Main Sony yang di sambungkan ke skrin cecair kristal (SCK)45 inci.

  budleee´s last thought..Wake Up Call
• Josh Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 4:57 pm

  It’s funny. I attended chinese primary school, learnt a bit of Mandarin. Then I joined national secondary school which used BM entirely on all subjects, then i went to university with courses also delivered entirely in BM, did my Masters and PhD and had been forced to write in BM, but that DOES NOT mean that i ended up as a Bahasa Malaysia speaking person with poor English or my mother tongue Mandarin. I’m highly capable in writing passages in English and Chinese, and I can speaks English and Mandarin fluently. Does teaching in BM kills my mother tongue? NOPE.

  But when talk about teaching Maths and Science in English, there’re tones of brainless people fighting against it, in the name of saving their own mother tongue. It’s funny.

  Josh´s last thought..Kak Lin Come And Go
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 4:59 pm

  I’m loving this.. been a while this blog didn’t get so heat up discussion;
  Zack, yeah Quran did mention about the great of Rome but in different context, if I’m not mistaken its about the greatness of ‘penaklukan’; but maybe I’m wrong. I think from your own experience I’m sure you glad, know a bit of English when you were in school and you able to study in US with a chances in the future able to contribute for our country ICT development; I’m seeing this on my point of view of people like myself – which never had a chances to captured English on early stage; and as for younger generation – if they have the chances – I think they should deserved to get expose with English not just a language subject.
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 5:02 pm

  Budlee – You’re funny! I’ve to agree with you on RUMI & JAWI thingy – I remember my mum told me she was force to go to kelas dewasa – and everybody was against it; but see what has happen to our country after that?
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 5:04 pm

  Josh! You get my point, don’t use PPSMI for sake of saving mother tongue – I’ve being trying writing, reading english (although it still worse) – I’m still be able to write Sastera Bahasa Melayu which I’m proud off – and I’m damn good in it (sorry terbangga diri kejap)
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

  Yes, if using politic makes my voice heard. Why not? To Budlee, there are lots of errors in your translation. First, when you use di with verb it is always rapat like “dijemput”. For joystick the correct translation according to Kamus Komputer DBP is “kayu bedik” not “batang gembira”. Finally, when you translate something you do not directly translate something. My last word, translation is an art and you have to learn like any other knowledge.
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 5:44 pm

  Wahazaextra. I came from Kampung too and my expose to English was when I moved to KL in standard six. I have no problem ppl learning and expose to English. But I think the priority is wrong and the current government as always does not do something based on extensive research. It is usually an adhoc policy that comes from top to bottom without much discussion. We will be like bangsa rojak which is happening now. We neither master in English neither master in our own language and neither master in science and technology. The examples are plenty, there are countries that use English to teach science and technology but they like I said never come out first. The best may be as second place like english is a second language. Of course, you may change the takdir by do away your mother tongue and become really proficient with English as your first language.
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 5:52 pm

  And you did not get my point about the Rome and Persia thing. Stop believing that Islamic civilization is so great. Other civilizations are great too and the Islamic thinkers learnt from other civilization. Yet, I don’t ever come across they produce their work in bahasa asing. It is always the language they and their community spoke.
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 6:04 pm

  And if you really love and want to know about something, you will do whatever to learn more about it, regardless of what language it is. This is what the government should do, instead of focusing on the wrong method to teach Maths and Science in English.
  And what is really the purpose of PPSMI is it about improving English or is it about improving Science and Maths. As I understood, the marks for these two subjects have been lowered and the standard as well. If you teach a person who is pemalas and has no motivation to learn, what the use of PPSMI?
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 6:12 pm

  Zack, thanks – really luv your opinion actually; I think there are people either on government/non-government side, who really fighting for this in their own way. I do get your understanding about the Islamic thinker thing – however I’ve my opinion which I still believe one of the downside of what happen long ago.. is European people get to master Arabic language but Arabic people refuse too; at last all the books and great thing was taken bcoz they move one step ahead than them; and they use to revolution their civilizations;
  Yes, PPSMI was implemented way to soon without proper planning – I think I wrote in one of the entry before – I think it was the ‘batuk di tangga’ strategy for MSC thingy during that time; – however, right now – I think it was silly to revert back to Bahasa Melayu – and as my entry objective (in bitchy way) is to highlight – it’s bad to use excuse of losing our mother tongue – and some of this people are just follower and speak only to gain rating – and using bunting with English wording to fight against PPSMI; That’s so wrong – so shame;
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 6:25 pm

  Zack, one more – I’m spoken as a person who not on any political interest; to solve the issue… I think both side of political parties has to put side their political rating but instead think about the new generation interest – and all races not just Malays
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 6:36 pm

  Just a side note to everyone. My brother learn japanese informally because he loves the japanese animation, games and manga. When you make people love about a subject, they will have the passionate to learn the subject regardless of the language. This is the thing the government should focus, make the two subjects interesting that is if the purpose of PPSMI is to enhance the understanding of English. For me English is just to communicate with people who do not spoke my language. Even after studying in English and working in English-speaking environment, I still write grammatical errors in English. Because English is my second language not my mother tongue. I believe if those academicians and experts who write good Malay for a subject they are expert in, it will help greatly the nation. You can’t blame translators for the lack of academic book in Malay. The government should have established Institut Terjemahan Negara long time ago. If there is a reborn Christian, I am a reborn Malaysian who loves my language and wants to see it grow to discuss science and technology subjects not merely subjects like sejarah.
• kak ja Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 10:43 pm

  Salam Wahaza,
  Tak nak bnyk berkata2, tp seorg tokoh Bahasa Melayu ada berkata, di dlm Bahasa Melayu ini sebenarnya ada ruh Islam.. Wallahu’allam bissawab..

  kak ja´s last thought..Let’s Finish Strong!!
• Zack Says:
  February 26th, 2009 at 10:48 pm

  Ya Kak Ja. Bahasa Melayu banyak mengambil pengaruh bahasa Arab dan bahasa Sanskrit. Saya terkejut baca betapa lainnya bahasa melayu dalam batu bersurat dengan bahasa melayu moden sekarang.
  Apa yang saya risau sekarang apa jaminan kerajaan bahawa perkembangan bahasa melayu akan disokong dalam diskusi keilmuan. Kita lihat apa yang terjadi kepada tulisan jawi yang dipinggirkan dan lama2 tidak digunakan langsung.
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 3:14 am

  Kak Ja; Betul ke? Wawa sebenarnya tak arif sangat bab2 ni actually tapi memang Bahasa Melayu asalnya (agaklah) ditulis dalam bahasa jawi, which is relevant to say it’s incorporated from tulisan yang digunakan dari Tanah Arab; Islam datang ke Tanah Melayu still under debat either from China through Terengganu or Melaka itself (sepahaman melah – buta Sejarah jugak ni)
• wahazaextra Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 3:26 am

  Zack, yeah – I guess you probably got the point there; – surely any language will come to a point it being revolutionise by the people who use it; influence from other language will happen either from a reverse translation (different word directly) or so-call close translation (same word but malaysianise the word) – I remember last time when Mr A do the annual budget – he will used at least 10 new word – mostly influence by Indonesian language; However, the beautiful about Bahasa Melayu is with a different structure of same wording you may get a different meaning; like my previous post – kamu mempermainkan sayang ku – either its mean kau mempersendakan sayang (feeling) ku – or – kau mempersendakan sayang (kekasih) ku; that’s how unique Bahasa Melayu is;
• kak ja Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 5:52 am

  Kja pun bukannya celik sejarah sgt.. scored a C3 in my SRP, lps tu masuk Science Stream dah tak belajar Sejarah.. Then went overseas for my first degree, lalu menambahkan lagi buta sejarah kja..

  Tp kja nampak mmg benar terdptnya ruh Islam di dlm Bahasa Melayu ni.. Contoh yg cukup mudah: Even a Chinese student tak akan buat ayat yg mcm ni: “Tengahari semalam, ibu saya memasak sup khinzir yg sangat lazat.”

  Rasanya tak ada yg salah dgn ayat tu tp ruh Islam di dlm Bahasa Melayu itu sendiri semcm menjadikan ada sesuatu yg tak kena..

  Wallahu’allam bissawab…

  kak ja´s last thought..Let’s Finish Strong!!
• kak ja Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 5:58 am

  *a non-Moslem Chinese student

  kak ja´s last thought..Let’s Finish Strong!!
• Zack Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 6:20 am

  Wahaza, that’s my point. If you don’t use the Malay language often in science and scientific discussion. I will no longer evolve. It will become a static language. The people have to use it to make it evolves to a point it takes other language and Malayanise it. Nothing wrong with that to take other form of language and make it your own. That’s how the Indonesians did to their language and their language evolve.
  I repeat again, the PPSMI does not present a good solution on how to make the Malay language the language of science and technology. There is no plan to make sure that the terms in science and technology will continue to be used and developed. There is no indication of any thing what the government will do to improve the Malay language in this field. Other than the guarantee that Malay will continue to be used in History subject. Who needs that, History is already history. Malay language has enough vocabulary and terms to explain history. It needs further development in science and technology to move forward.
• Zack Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 6:59 am

  Speaking of Mr A, I used to be a fan of his nemesis, the good Dr M. That was during my school years. How I thought Malaysia has good infrastructure, the highways and everything. Privatization was good. That was then. Now after 20 years, you feel the effect of this privatisation or specifically the unfair sweet deal these concessionaires got from the government. Toll has to be increase, so as water. This should not be the case if policies were made with the rakyat in mind and well-thought process.
  Don’t blame me to be skeptical of PPSMI. Another policy born during the Mahathir’s time. The effect might not feel now but later in 10 or 15 years. And as I have said before, experience from Asian and African countries that used their colonial master language as the medium in education is not that good. The best as I have always said is to come second not first.
• YAZrIE Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 9:42 am

  gitiewwwlah perbincangan yang semakin hangat..Apa kata KITA PI MINUMM DULU…*sambil order Fresh Orange

  YAZrIE´s last thought..Dah ok…
• budleee Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 11:56 am

  kayu bedik? gosh.. i am not sure how many of us would actually understand what that means if you don’t kindly synthesis it out for us. When Rumi was introduced and replaced Jawi, it meant changing everything from sign boards, books, newspaper basically everything written. However we are only teaching Math and Science in English, we are not replacing History, Bahasa, Pendidikan Islam in English. Just as you think I am blowing it out of proportion with my “poor” translation and Malay, I think you are doing the same by making a comparison on how Jawi has been left behind and how the “mother tougue” is not been used in teaching Science and English. Like you said, first versus second. Then Chinese and Tamil medium school can still get good grade on other non “mother tougue” subjects?

  budleee´s last thought..Geng The Move; Pengembaraan Bermula (feat Upin and Ipin)
• Zack Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 12:10 pm

  For you non-Malay of course la you like it when the Malay is relegated to teach subjects like History. Because the Malay was never you mother tongue. I bet it is English or campur with some hokkien, tamil, malay or whatever. Mandarin should no be a problem since there are over a billion people in China using and improving the language. But for the Malay language? To further develop the language there should be a political will, like the French and Indonesian did. You should be lucky that Malaysia do not impose strict usage like the Indonesia did to her population. Even the Chinese there talk in Bahasa Indonesia.
  About kayu bedik.. yes that’s the official translation. We are not used to it because we don’t want to. But I don’t see anything weird about that. There are many new terms introduced in English that take the form from Arabic, European and Asian language. Yet, the continued use of the term make lead to familiarity. I don’t ridicule your Malay translation, anyhow.
  About the Chinese and Tamil medium schools, I don’t really get your point. What I said about being second is that I don’t really mean academic achievement. Sure you can get As in all subjects but can you really be innovators? The problem with Malaysian education system is that too much emphasize on “getting good grade” and not getting good grade in life and this includes contributing something meaningful to the society.
• YAZrIE Says:
  February 27th, 2009 at 3:54 pm

  lor tak habih2 lagi ke dgn isu ni??yang paling UTAMA, pelajar tu semua mesti dapat memahami KONSEP dan INTIPATI dlm matapelajaran sains dan matematik…itu yang lebih PENTING…bukan soal bahasa melayu ke inggeris ke sebagainya..

  YAZrIE´s last thought..Dah ok…
• danial ma Says:
  March 1st, 2009 at 6:20 pm

  hej! yazrie…are you going to join too? haiyah, jom kita minum dulu…sambil kacau susu tepung ducth lady dalam gelas kaca warna biru…heheheheh…

  danial ma´s last thought..Lonely Planet – ICONIC ISTANBUL
• YAZrIE Says:
  March 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 am

  Danial: JOMMMM KITA MINUMMMMM DULU…..*Sambil rebus telur separuh masak…

  YAZrIE´s last thought..Dah ok…
• 2l2m Says:
  March 2nd, 2009 at 8:55 pm

  you look like the guy appeared in today’s The Sun under the media & marketing column
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pm

  2l2m;
• Putubambu Says:
  March 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 am

  sorry interrupting you all..
  wawa..sila jawab tag saya yek..

  Putubambu´s last thought..Picture tag pulak…
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 3rd, 2009 at 10:26 am

  Kak Putu;
  Nanti wawa jawab, agak busy sekarang ni…
• AJ Says:
  March 4th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

  tak tau nk menyampuk tang mana
  so tumpang baca komen2 org lain jer laaa

  apapun dlm kes PPSMI ni, rasanya guru2 dan pelajar yg jd mangsa krn sentiasa menjadi bhn ujikaji

  teringat salah seorg teman berkata, kesannya tak dpt dilihat dlm tempoh yg singkat. mgkin jugak ler…
• Anas Says:
  March 7th, 2009 at 8:15 pm

  “maybe this sound a bit rude, does Nabi Muhammad SAW preaching Islam to Quraisy is against the nature of Arab people – I think he never give up for at least 10 years;”

  Saudara,

  Nabi tidak menyampaikan ajaranNya kepada kaum Quraisy di dalam bahasa Cina atau bahasa Yunani, bahasa Ilmu waktu itu.

  “Please, remain the PPSMI policy for now and stop barging your little smelly armpit to the Istana Negara.”

  Remain the PPSMI?

  REMAIN?

  REMAIN the PPSMI?

  shouldn’t it be “RETAIN” instead? kedudukan T dan M jauh di kibod saya, mungkin sebelah menyebelah di kibod kamu, entahlah.

  Bagus sangat Inggeris kamu. Terlalu bagus. Sekali baca sudah tahu yang menulisnya Melayu.

  Ini mungkin ikhtisas kamu, tapi jangan lupa, yang kamu ajar di sekolah itu bangsa kami.

  Kami punya daya dan nyali untuk memperjuangkan apa yang kami percaya lebih baik. Tidak perlu kamu mengeluarkan kata-kata kesat buat kami. Kami dengan perjuangan kami. Kamu dengan apa yang kamu perjuangkan.

  Oh ya, saya bersyukur kamu bukan guru saya. Dan saya yakin, kamu tidak layak mengajar di sekolah saya.

  Kamu malu dilahirkan Melayu ke?
• John T Says:
  March 7th, 2009 at 10:40 pm

  Sincerely, your english sucks. I advise u to just stick to bahasa.
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 8:58 am

  Anas, memang saya Melayu, dan sungguh bangga sebagai rakyat Melayu. Saya memang teruk berbahasa Inggeris, tapi saya tidak segan mencuba walaupun saya membuat kesilapan. Namun saya tidak pernah mengambil kesempatan mempolitikan isu-isu yang tidak semunasabah demi kepentingan kedaulatan melayu. Melayu yang bijak adalah Melayu yang tidak segan mencuba. Islam yang sempurna adalah Islam manusia itu menasihat dan menasihati bukannya demi sedikit perubahan terus menutup rapat minda kepada sebarang idea baru. Komen saya adalah kenapa menulis bunting dalam Bahasa Inggeris sedangkan bunting itu memperjuangkan Bahasa Melayu.
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 9:07 am

  John, I did put a disclaimer about my English; Thanks for emphasize it; I didn’t feel ashame actually; Coz Melayu like me will try again and again since this is supposedly what every Malay should do; Politicalise the issue, yes it will bring the change; we’ve done it with Malayan Union, however all thing was successfull on the negotiation table; so to make a change it require not just to be in street; a good Malay has to be smart to find the right solution to replace PPSMI not just to abolished them; there a lot of money spend already on PPSMI, it’s tax payer money;
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 9:32 am

  Anas,
  Memang saya tak mengajar di sekolah pun; tak layak pun; tapi saya berkata melalui pengalaman menemuduga pekerja2 Melayu – yang langsung tidak mahu berubah dan sangat berada di tokok lama; saya bersyukur kamu bukan pekerja saya, sesungguhnya kamu sangatlah tidaklah layak juga;
• NbC Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 12:35 pm

  i wonder, Ans ni seorg gurukah..?
  kalau lah dia seorang guru, alangkah sedihnya..

  *sorry Wahaza, hanya di tepi membaca posted comments all these while, but ari ni rasa sedih baca comment yg 1 ni..
• Zack Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 12:58 pm

  Wahaza,

  I was one of the protestors yesterday. Yes, I think there are people who politicise this issue. But to blame them 100 percent is not the right way. I don’t understand why police should fire tear gas. This is march for language, not for political cause.
  As you said there is too much money invested in PPSMI, I am asking you this, do you afraid losing out all those contract you will get at the expense of anak bangsa? In investment, you don’t keep bad company’s shares, you dispose of them at lost to avoid further loss. And you move on.
  Further, there is already subject like English in Science and Technology. Why don’t the government just focus on that. Spent the money on something else.
  Please read Mansur Putih take on this issue. He is right, you can nurture innovation culture by being a copycat.
  http://rockybru2.blogspot.com/2009/03/mansur-putihs-take-on-english-for-m-s.html
• Zack Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

  Sorry I mean can’t. I am with you on we should not ashamed to write and talk in English with wrong grammar. . I think somebody like forgot his name Nordin Selat may be said, we used to have diplomats who were fluent in English but not anymore so most of our diplomat now malu-malu nak cakap. So he think this is why PPSMI should continue. I say bull shit, there are lots of diplomats whose mother tongue are not English and they speak with an accent too but do not feel ashamed.
  I think this is more about the Malay culture who malu to speak out. Even if you fluent in English but you are malu to speak out, what the use of it.
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 1:43 pm

  Zack, oh really? How was it? I’m away for a short break actually didn’t know it was yesterday;
  My concern is some of us is putting the issue as much as they are doing this to gain political rating; Trust me there is people who planning this for sake of marketing a person or political party either left or right wings ( which I don’t care ).
  About the contract thingy, I never scared of losing it since I’m not a ppsmi contractor, hihi; I’m doing other thing much bigger; Check out the Sun last Monday;
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 8th, 2009 at 2:58 pm

  Pinky, it’s ok; everybody have different opinions on this; and never thought it would heat up – till people commented about my poor English; but as usual I don’t take it to my heart; I know I’m good Malay, which is matter to me the most; and I’m a very open about this matter;
• Zack Says:
  March 9th, 2009 at 9:24 am

  Wahaza,
  Hari ni aku tulis dalam bahasa Melayu. Mata aku pedih betul kena gas pemedih mata. Itupun pada jarak jauh, tak dapat bayangkan orang yang dekat termasuk budak-budak yang turut serta dalam perarakan tu. Beberapa hari ni kenyataan Hishamuddin anak Tun Hussein semakin menampakkan kebodohan sombongnya. Dia cakap kenapa tak tentang 6 tahun lepas. Aku tengok UMNO semakin menggali kubur dia sendiri. Sultan dipertahankan tapi bahasa sendiri dibakulsampahkan. Aku harap sangat anak Tun Hussein Onn ni kalah PAU bulan ni.
• Zack Says:
  March 9th, 2009 at 5:19 pm

  Wahaza,

  Cuba baca artikel di bawah.
  http://www.themalaysianinsider.com/index.php/opinion/jeremiahmahadevan/19956-the-politics-of-language

  There are good arguments in support of the protests — there is no reason to assume that the teaching of Science and Maths in English will do much to increase standards of English in the country, and neither is it likely to increase the competitiveness of Malaysian students in a global context — both of these goals are far more likely to be achieved by an efficient, comprehensive and ruthless overhaul to improve standards of teaching, curriculum and infrastructure across all subjects and schools.

  One does not have to look far to find countries that do not have English as a medium of instruction in schools and yet are fertile beds of research and development and remain supremely competitive in the global economy. Furthermore, Bahasa Malaysia is a precious national commodity that deserves to endure as a full-fledged language, equipped with the mechanisms for lexical expansion that can only be provided by constant and widespread usage. Cut BM out of the teaching of maths and science in schools, and you will slowly but inexorably cut it out of those fields for good.
• Anas Says:
  March 9th, 2009 at 9:55 pm

  Nampaknya ada orang terasa. Hehehe….

  Terima kasih, tapi saya pun tak perlukan pekerjaan sekarang.

  Saya juga bukan guru, tetapi saya dari keluarga guru. Dalam keluarga besar saya ada lebih 30 orang guru. Ibu bapa saya guru, adik-beradik ibubapa saya juga semuanya guru. Adik beradik saya sendiri ramai yang guru.

  Bagaimana orang yang lancang mulutnya, mudah terasa ya.

  Sila lihat komen kamu :

  “if you own freaking child itself didn’t appreciate your mother tongue, why blame the implementation to improve the second language.”

  Jika tidak salah pemahaman saya, ayat itu ditujukan kepada sang ibubapa. Ibubapa tidak marahkah anda bahasakan anak mereka sebagai “freaking child”?

  “Ini, baru nak berusaha 5 tahun, dah komplain pinggang sakitlah, bont*t pijarlah – ikut ajaran Islam totoklah ni!”

  Mungkin islam totok tidak sebaik Islam Hadhari, Islam Liberal, Islam Progressif. Entahlah.

  “Please, remain the PPSMI policy for now and stop barging your little smelly armpit to the Istana Negara.”

  Ah, tau pula ketiak siapa busuk, ketiak siapa tidak.

  “Yeah right! What do you get all of you Malays who shout from behind.”

  ck, ck, ck.

  Ini pandangan jujur saya.

  Anda sendiri menilai dan membuat serangan peribadi secara borong terhadap aktivis anti-PPSMI.

  Anda berada dibelakang PPSMI, tetapi anda sendiri tidak mempunyai kemahiran B.Inggeris yang mencukupi.

  Saya bukan orang politik, dan saya tidak kisah orang politik terlibat dalam kes ini.

  Menuduh perkara ini dipolitikkan, tanpa sebarang kredit buat pihak non-partisan itu sendiri tidak bertanggungjawab.

  Janganlah kerana mahu pendapat anda dimenangkan anda mula melabel dan menuduh yang bukan.

  Mungkin benar anda melakukan apa anda lakukan demi anak bangsa. Kami juga lakukan apa kami lakukan demi anak bangsa.

  Anda mahu bertanggungjawab akan masa depan lebih 50% anak-anak dari Perlis, Kelantan, Sabah dll, yang gagal matematik/sains UPSR tahun lalu?

  Pelajar-pelajar pintar dari SBP dan MRSM juga mengalami kemerosotan hasil dasar PPSMI yang menurut saya adalah dasar bodoh.

  Kami tidak anti bahasa inggeris, tetapi jika anda terlalu hendak mengagungkan bahasa inggeris jangan perjudikan masa depan sains dan teknologi negara.

  Jika kami, aktivis anti-PPSMI, adalah orang-orang bodoh, maka bodohlah juga Ibnu Sina, Al-Jabar, Khwarizmi, Edward De Bono, serta lain-lain pakar pedagogi.

  Semoga negara kita dijauhkan dari malapetaka kedunguan.
• Anas Says:
  March 9th, 2009 at 10:00 pm

  oh ya, saya ada nasihat percuma.

  “Who the heck is me” <– salah
  “Who the heck am i?”<– betul, tapi tak kena dan kasar. Seperti orang hilang ingatan.
  “Who the heck i am?” Seperti orang hilang harga diri.

  Nasihat : “A little something about me”
• budleee Says:
  March 10th, 2009 at 7:35 am

  wahaha.. baru jer nak tanya, kalau zack hadir kat perhimpunan tuh.. looks he did..

  my oh my, we do have 2 very strong characters who opposed you wawa.. tsk2

  english or mother toungue.. jeng2, that is the question..

  I hope it does not change. I don’t know any other Universities in Malaysia still uses Malay as its medium. Please do inform me, because I bet some of you here do the translation for the science books.

  I for one, would agree on PPMSI whole heartedly. So while road vehicles are being washed for free by the Fire brigade that was trying to spray protester while newly graduated interns, paramedics, and nurses gets to more patiens coming in the hospitals for treatment (more experienced for them) I will be going to my Universiti and read up medical journals that are in English.

  The change is here, and the change is for good. I respect Wahaza for helping people change for the best.

  by the way, anyone here anal enough to correct my grammar and spelling?

  budleee´s last thought..From Chamang Waterfall To Genting Highlands
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am

  Anas, saya berada di belakang PPSMI bukan kerana saya mahir berbahasa Inggeris, oleh kerana objektif PPSMI adalah luas, salah satunya adalah untuk melengkapkan kemahiran menggunakan teknologi ICT kepada guru-guru, sebagai seorang anak Melayu yang mahir dalam bidang ICT dan telah melangkah jauh dalam bidang IT, adakah salah sekiranya saya sudi menyumbangkan kemahiran saya kepada anak bangsa sendiri walaupun diri saya ada kekurangannya terutama dalam berbahasa Inggeris.

  Di manakah anak-anak Melayu lain seperti saudara yang mahir berbahasa Inggeris untuk tampil ke hadapan memberi tunjuk ajar?

  Cakap bukan sebarang cakap. Sekiranya saudara berada di dalam situasi saya, saudara pasti akan faham betapa sukarnya untuk mencari anak-anak Melayu yang sanggup tampil ke hadapan dan kami (people behind the PPSMI) bukannya mencari untung; atau lebih lagi merosakkan potensi anak-anak di luar bandar. Sekiranya saya ingin mencari untung, bukan PPSMI tempatnya.

  Mungkin saudara hanya melihat dari segi kaedah pembelajaran Bahasa Inggeris, namun dalam pelaksanaan PPSMI – banyak perkara-perkara baru yang dititik beratkan – terutama dari segi kemudahan celik IT kepada anak-anak murid. Mengunakan perisian yang dilengkapi dengan alat-alat bantuan mengajar yang semuanya di dalam Bahasa Inggeris.

  Saya membangkang apa yang dilaungkan di jalan bukan kerana saya menyokong PPSMI secara 100%, namun saya ingin menyatakan kepada segelintir dari pada penyokong-penyokong anti-PPSMI di jalanan itu, bahawasanya kadang-kadang anda terlupa tindakan anda itu seakan mempersendakan sesetengah anak-anak Melayu yang telah membantu PPSMI dengan niat yaang baik dan mungkin akan rasa terkilan dengan segala penat lelah yang ditaburkan selama 5 tahun, hanya dipandang sebagai kerja sia-sia.

  I’m not going to reply any comment about my English. Since it’s useless to argue with another Malay about my English.

  If your English is f*cking good, do f*cking good thing with it. I’ll be freaking proud of you; If you want to make a mockery out of me, go ahead too; I’ll be f*cking proud of you too for making fun;
• Zack Says:
  March 10th, 2009 at 11:13 am

  UKM masih gunakan bm sebagai bahasa pengantar. UiTM pulak dah guna habis BI. Tengoklah kualiti mana lebih baik antara UiTM dan UKM.
• budleee Says:
  March 10th, 2009 at 4:26 pm

  zack:
  hmm

  USM, UPM, UM, UTM guna bahasa inggeris..

  USM pula berada di carta paling tinggi antara semua universiti di Malaysia..

  Tengokla kualiti mana yang lebih baik.

  budleee´s last thought..From Chamang Waterfall To Genting Highlands
• budleee Says:
  March 10th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

  satu lagi.. skrg UiTM ade fakulti perubatan, UKM banyak menolong UiTM dalam bidang tersebut..

  Adakah anda merendah-rendahkan graduan UiTM, universiti yang menolong bumiputera?

  budleee´s last thought..From Chamang Waterfall To Genting Highlands
• Anas Says:
  March 11th, 2009 at 5:39 am

  Sekali lagi dalam sejarah dunia, sesuatu yang unik hanya di Malaysia.
  Tanpa PPSMI tidak boleh memperkenalkan peralatan IT kepada sekolah agaknya.

  Kamu pernah dengar yang namanya Rosetta Stone? Jika mahu benar merakyatkan IT di sekolah dan mempertingkatkan penguasaan bahasa (tak kira bahasa apa pun) itu caranya. Buat makmal bahasa. Perbaiki penghantaran ilmu bahasa.

  Zaman internet zaman global. Sesama melayu berborak dalam Bahasa Inggeris entah apa jadah angannya. Jika benar ingin berlatih, nun berjuta laman Inggeris, dari mereka yang memang hidup dalam budaya asal bahasa Inggeris itu sendiri.

  Saya ada perjuangan saya sendiri untuk membantu bangsa saya. PPSMI hanya membantutkan segala usaha saya. Saya tidak kisah kalau bangsa saya pandai bahasa apa pun, saya amat marah bila mereka di-bodoh-sains-dan-matematik-kan.

  Tiada guna jika mereka faham buku teks bahasa apa pun jika asas matematik dan sains hancur.
• Anas Says:
  March 11th, 2009 at 5:52 am

  Oh ya,

  Saya bukan tak tahu berapa margin keuntungan dalam tender membekal perkakasan IT untuk PPSMI.

  Sebuah laptop biasanya memberikan keuntungan sekitar RM200 bagi peruncit komputer.

  Dalam harga tender kerajaan biasanya sebuah laptop boleh harganya boleh digemuk-gemukkan untuk memberikan margin keuntungan lebih RM1000.

  Saya juga kontraktor. Saya tahu lubang-lubang ni semua. Setakat nak tengok waran yang belum dipecah jadi tender-tender kecil perkara kecil bagi saya. Cumanya saya tak tergamak dan tak mahu terlibat.
• NbC Says:
  March 11th, 2009 at 8:26 am

  Anas, you are not concentrating on the main issue discussed. Pls dont practice such personal attack here.

  * Berbudi bahasa amalan kita
• Hairie Otai Says:
  March 11th, 2009 at 6:34 pm

  amacam?… ada puas? apa konlusinya?
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• mk Says:
  March 19th, 2009 at 12:40 am

  Has anyone ever made a proper and accurate statistics about the preference of the school Children which are directly affected by PPSMI. Do they prefer Math and science to be thought in Bahasa Melayu(BM) or in English? Responses from my immediate family members namely nieces and nephews have been very positive so far. They had been given the options either to answer in Malay or English during the most recent exams and surprisingly (or not) all of them decided to answer in English and did rather well when the results came out for both subjects. Why are the adults are making a big fuss about PPSMI when the young minds are giving their thumb up to PPSMI. You are blaming the politicians for imposing the policies upon them, don’t you even realize that you are also imposing your so called value upon the also. It is a a perpetual chain reaction. Just give PPSMI some space before we can seemore positive results.
• wahazaextra Says:
  March 19th, 2009 at 10:53 am

  MK, yeah – they have options to answer in English & Malay – even when I’m train teachers – we were ask to let teachers to have options to do it in English also in Malay – so they would be able to explain some complex issues;

  5 years is a short time to see the impact on 2nd level degree; In my history – I would remember even Pendidikan Islam was given options to be answer in Rumi or Jawi – actually there is no need to go out the street on the first palce
• Gapodio Says:
  March 24th, 2009 at 3:04 pm

  maafkan saya en yusuf..
  tapi aku rasa agak cetek tahap pemikiran en yusuf ni..
  Aku cukup tak puas hati bila orang bagi alasan perlu mansuhkan PPSMI sebab kesian kat budak-budak kg dan pedalaman…
  rasa cam nak gi luku kepala orang2 tu…

  aku budak Kg dan Aku SOKONG PPSMI!!!

  http://gapodio.blogspot.com/2009/03/ppsmiapa-sebenarnya.html

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