Teoh Beng Hock – the story never told
I wasn’t sure the other day to write about the late Teoh Beng Hock but with countless times stumbling upon an entry about him on anyone blog which some – I would just ignore it and some I would spent a time reading it.
Sadly, some of us – love to politicking any speculation and some, love to bang on the racial door.
How pathetic!
However, I just want treat the late Teoh Beng Hock as a 30 years old guy who spend most of his 24/7 around his work as similar with most of us in the early 30s.
Establishing ourselves in this world.
It’s such a crazy world where we live in, working late, plenty of job, demanding boss and probably many more other challenges.
Sadly, most of us wasn’t ready, and I might think the late Teoh Beng Hock was the same – a victim of his career.
Yeah, I know some of us think it was a conspiracy theory – he love his job.
But, I think the greatest lost of a family is loosing a son who so eager to be some where or to be in some place which he would fit in.
Conspiracy Theory is just Hollywood flick – we’re living in the world where there is no right or wrong on this!
I didn’t know him personally and even I didn’t know who he is before the incident so I’ll ignore what he do, what he probably done and who he working with.
The greatest story never told is the late Teoh Beng Hock is just a guy who stuck in currently demanding world of ‘Asia’s Working Enviroment’ and like me and most of us, how many of us being truth to acknowledge we are in the most stressful environment.
We’re no longer a fresh graduate, we’re not leveraging on what we’re earning yet – we’re just living day in and day out.
And that’s the late Teoh Beng Hock, you saw on the photo all over the news; shows he was crying for help to be safe!
Sad – his gone that way or the other way;
I’m pity the guy, especially working in this Malaysian political line – the most challenging career path of all – I’m sure its required integrity, confident, problem solving and many more other skills which some of other bloggers (who very opinionated) don’t have.
To create speculation about his death is just silly – news will basi, anger will subside and election will comes again – nothing will change;
I hope any parents who reading this, might just stop judging or speculate about his death – take your time to look over your son or your daughter;
A cry for help doesn’t mean – “Dad, I need money” – it could be just anything;
And when a coffin is in front of you, it’s not a time to put the blame on anyone else except yourself.
July 23rd, 2009 at 10:56 am
Dude. Just like all the other Malaysians you are jumping to a conclusion on his death.
The question is not, what if it was an accident, or if he killed himself. The question is what if he was murdered? What if it was your turn to be interrogated by MACC or other authority?
Will you have a say then?
Are you implying that it is a waste of effort to question his death? Are you against all forms of criminal investigation or just TBH’s case?
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:31 am
TheDoer, thanks for dropping by – Nope I didn’t implied it’s a waste of effort to question his death and I’m supporting what ever criminal investigation currently be done.
My point is, there is so many blogger written an entry to speculate his death only in the matter of someone murdered him or conspiracy theory and both are trying to imply it’s an act of injustice.
And I wanted to share my point of view from a different angle – and – highlighting the issue;
There is a couple articles about stress disorder on the rise amongst young executive – and – there is an increase of act of suicidal in this country and even around the world.
Maybe what happen to TBH is a good sign for parents (who mostly to eager on other political stuff) to check out on their kids and I’m talking here not just for a Non-Muslim parents but also Muslim parents itself.
Perhaps my entry does sound – I’m jumping to one conclusion – however – there’s a need for all of us to discuss about this taboo matter – and in our Malaysian culture – we just close our eyes when this kind of things happen.
If TBH was a regular guy like me and found on some random building which is not MACC – I’m SO SURE this issues wasn’t arise & people just reading the news and glance through on that day only.
People will straight away point a finger on one particular reason without trying to resolve the issue.
Amber Alert will not exist if Amber didn’t went missing;
July 23rd, 2009 at 12:56 pm
You have written: “Conspiracy Theory is just Hollywood flick – we’re living in the world where there is no right or wrong on this!” Exactly what are you trying to say? That there’s no right or wrong when a man is found to have fallen from the 14th floor of a building after an intensive interrogation by the anti corruption branch of the government? But anyone falling out of a high building under such bizarre circumstances is NOT typical, and the circumstances of such a death require every reasonable citizen of a democratic nation to question when such a thing happens.
You may be genuinely fascinated in discussing the taboo subject of suicide, but why pick this case to discuss suicide if you are not suggesting Teoh’s death is a suicide? The fact that you have chosen to portray Teoh as “a 30 years old guy who spend most of his 24/7 around his work as similar with most of us in the early 30s” who has ended up as a victim of challenges of living and working in this stressful environment” not only makes your motives suspicious – it is despicable.
At the end of the day, while I accept you are entitled to your opinion and this is your blog, I would urge you to have more integrity. Do not be so dismissive of Teoh and proclaim him “a victim of his career” and then defend your piece by writing you are not implying “it’s a waste of effort to question his death” and that you are “supporting what ever criminal investigation currently be done”.
July 23rd, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Hi Lilian, thanks for dropping by – “Conspiracy Theory is just Hollywood flick – we’re living in the world where there is no right or wrong on this!”
What I’m trying to say is, it’s no used for us to speculate about racial issues about the incident (as what written on other blog – which I’m refuse to backlink) and which side he was – fallen down from 14th floor in suspicious way is just so bizarre – whatever happen, why and where – is like a flickering of fire to a larger issues;
As in my previous comment and the title of the entry – ‘the story never told’ – I want to highlight the suicidal issue rather than a political bashing or conspiracy oriented.
Yeah, I might sound despicable to implied this to the late TBH that it’s suicidal but as what I’ve written – I’m portray Teoh as ‘a 30 years guys’ not as Teoh’s cases himself – at the end of this entry – I wanted parents/sister/brother who reading this – do check out on your son/brother/sister – coz after things happen like this – we do speculate all sort of things and not accepting (MAYBE) the original motive.
Yup, I should have more integrity in what I said – but sometimes being an ugly duckling – makes us see things in different perspective;
I still stand on ‘a victim of his career’ coz no matter what’s the end result of things happening – he was there bcoz of his career – which again – pity that guy in any circumstances;
Be sure, I’m disgusted with all things happening – but – ‘stress in working environment’ – is spot on – what we didn’t realises is, most of us just try to ignore it and perhaps if we act fast someone else could be save;
July 25th, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Dear Whazaextra,
Pain will not be painful unless it is upon us or those we love. And for this case, the pain is very painful and unbearable to Beng Hock’s family, wife-to-be, relatives, bosses and those who know him or close to him. I dun think they are jumping the gun, all that wanted was truth be told.
Imagine this. If some one you love fell from a construction building at the time he was required to check on the building where safety is ensured, would not you want to know what exactly happened? Would not you want to know how it happened? Would you not want to know why it happened?. Would you say he is a `victim of his career’ instead?
This is exactly what happened in Beng Hock’s case. He did not die at his office. He died at the MACC Office. He walked into the MACC office alive with those so called people who are to protect him but ended up in the coffin even before he walked out the office. Should you not asked and wonder what happened? How it happened? Why it happened? Instead you call him `a victim of his career’?? I dun think you are being fair to the deceased and family.
I think it’s best for you to keep your opinion private rather than `pissing’ off the nation who cried out for truth to Beng Hock’s death.
All said and I know you have your right to your opinion but please see things from a bigger perspective and realise that Malaysia has become `lawless’ now. We want people regardless of age, race, color, background, position, title but simply called Malaysian to be treated all the same.
July 25th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
Hi LY, thanks for dropping by – of course, I shared the feeling – as I said – “the greatest lost of a family is loosing a son who so eager to be some where or to be in some place which he would fit in” – which I feel TBH parents still in shock about this whole accident and wanted the truth to be told no matter what’s the outcome of this.
There’s plenty of others putting the question what, how and why about MACC – yes, it’s a fact that this thing happen there – but it wasn’t the issue I wanted to discussed here – since I hate all this political oriented bashing.
As I said before, I’ve tried to see this issue from a different angle – maybe like yourself and some of the reader who never being here – try to jump the gun and shoot me and didn’t know me and the tone of my previous writing – I didn’t bash a person or other entities – like I said – “I didn’t know him personally and even I didn’t know who he is before the incident so I’ll ignore what he do, what he probably done and who he working with.” – bcoz thats not matter to me.
I highlighted ‘a victim of his career’ is because there is countless facts about his work stress and even was acknowledged by someone close to him. Yes, I did implied it was a suicidal but I did also said it’s possibly being murdered with this sentences – “Sad – his gone that way or the other way;”
But, since there’s plenty of other entry highlighted about ‘the other way’ – I’m bring this issues in different perspective.
And I still wonder, why people so scared to accept this issues and instead want discussed about ‘lawless’ issues?
Does because MACC is mostly being as ‘Malay’ and TBH being as ‘Chinese’?
It’s unfair for you to said I should keep my opinion private and ‘pissing’ off the nation (since I’m Malay), a different kind of opinion make us see the bigger picture even although it’s harsh or negative opinion.
A country wouldn’t be a country if there is no opposition;
July 27th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
What is the huha about this?
A witness died after being questioneed by the Anti Corruption Agency. His friend saw him at 6.00 am tired in the pantry.
so he either committed suicide or was killed by someone who doesnt want him to be a witness.
Its no use trying to get angry with MACC or the police. They are just doing your job.
Teoh family said he wanted to quit his job. Why?
Because he knew something illegal and didnt like it? He sound like a nice guy.
but who asked him to do illegal things? his bos, the underworld? That is the one million question
July 27th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
helo kawan,
tak ada orang yang kata MACC it `Malay’ and yang mati itu `Cina’. Faktanya ada orang yang mati dibawah tahanan MACC. Itu saja. Dan mereka ingin tahu kebenarannya.
Tiada apa-apa yang kita pertikaikan itu boleh membantu, yang tahu segala-galanya adalah Tuhan yang maha berkuasa. Biarlah Allah yang tentukan nasib mereka terlibat dengan kematian TBH, kalau bukan di dunia sekarang, dunia selepas inilah.
Saya anak muhibbah. Yang betul disokong, yang salah ditolak. Itu sahaja.
July 27th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Mat Bond – thanks for dropping by;
anakmalaysia – thanks for dropping by;
Again, I’m not going to discussed about MACC, so I’m going reserved my comment on thats matter. I’m more interested on the other issues;
July 30th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Hi again, and thanks for the reply.
You admit, that anything is possible, however your remarks, will suggest, “stop investigating” this is not a drama, it is real life.
Yes, it is possible he killed himself, or it was an accident, since he was pretty tired.
But that is besides the point. The point is that it needs to be investigated. The problem is, we know for a fact, that the integrity of the Malaysian Police is questionable, hence the set up of MACC. Now the MACC is being investigated, are we still looking for another government body to do the investigation?
So the question possed by many people is: Why politic the situation?
Simple, if not through politics, how else are we going to demand improvement?
You are right, it could be a suicide, but we have to rule that out because, it does not fit the profile of someone who wants to kill himself.
Someone who wants to kill himself, would consider it long and hard before he does it. He would not choose a random building, or kill himself out of convenience. With the exception of an audience that he hopes will stop him.
Furthermore, why not go to the top floor, the roof, or somewhere easier to jump from, rather then squeeze through a window like that.
Psychology tells us, that a suicidal person, would prepare his death. He would have probably hinted it, by telling his family how his wealth would be distributed, or at least a death note, saying his goodbyes.
Latest evidence, shows that there was a struggle, because his footware was torn, and now they are saying there is DNA of another person.
July 30th, 2009 at 2:10 pm
No, it is not a racial issue, the main bodies that support TBH fairer investigations, are AGAINST promoting it as a racial issue. But for some reason, certain parties keep condemning them for raising it as one. is that reverse psychology?
Some how we have lost the focus.
Is the issue, whether it is racial or not?
Whether certain parties are making use of the matter for politcal mileage?
or demanding the truth regarding the death?
July 30th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
TheDoer – thanks for dropping by; I think what you recap about suicidal issues is great observation – which what is I’m hoping from a discussion like this.
I think anger and other issues amongst Malaysia kind of blur out everything else;
August 1st, 2009 at 3:30 pm
Kalau nak berlaku adil .kita mesti melihat dari pelbagai arah.Siasatan harus dilaksanakan bukanya menuduh sesiapa.keputusan belum pasti lagi kenapa nak salahkan MACC.jangan lupa Teoh juga merupakan salah seorang saksi .Dia juga penting untuk memberikan keterangan.Cuba lihat Dari sudut lain pula.Mungkin ada orang lain yang tidak suka dia berada disitu untuk memberikan keterangan.Masa siasatan mungkin mengambil masa yang lama kerana rasuah melibatkan banyak aspek seperti kiraan jumlah angka,resit,invoice,lampiran dan sbgnya.
Secara lojiknya Teoh Beng Hock amat bermakna kepada MACC.
P/s Ada orang nampak dia tidur disofa..bersarapan di pantry.
August 1st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Saya hairan dengan Gobind singh.Macam mana dia boleh wakili family teoh beng hock.tetapi pada masa yang sama mewakili dua orang ahli DAP yang melewatkan penyerahan DNA mereka kepada badan siasatan. Sepatutnya Family Teoh Beng Hock perlu mengupah peguam yang tidak mewakili mana-mana parti.sebab gobind singh sendiri melengahkan-lengahkan siasatan.
August 3rd, 2009 at 9:39 am
DIA X BUNUH DIRI DA…NI MESTI KONSPIRASI…HUHU…POOR HIM…BAPE BLN LG NK JD AYAH,,DAHLE XKAWIN LG…HENTIKAN KEKEJAMAN DLM NEGARA…AKU XKN SESEKALI SOKONG LELAKI DAYUS…LU PK LA SNDIRI SAPER…
August 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pm
let the authority do their investigation. We cannot simply judge the book by its cover. Simply he is not killed himself. Someone killed him, if not he can be an asset to the government. All the truth now was buried with him. Who are the beneficiary from his death????
August 6th, 2009 at 8:22 am
It’s pretty funny. When I read the comments left behind here I can’t help but laughing. Looks like I’ve gotta start a blog like you wahazaextra
Basically there are 2 groups of commentators here. 1 strongly support that its a conspiracy, 1 more thinks that it’s all huha and not being fair to MACC.
If either party were wrong; on one hand, well, maybe we have misjudged MACC, poor them, probably need to give them a rub on the back after the ordeal, on another hand if MACC did do it, you the public have allowed them to go free…
humm… think about it… if you were found dead in an alley one day. Would you like the person who found your body, and the person accused of murdering you to do the investigation?
MACC is a body of the government, conspiracy theory or not, it is a lead. Therefore the government should not be involved in investigating, or electing the investigative body. Or to be fair, have people from various groups be part of the commission to conduct the investigation and trial.
August 6th, 2009 at 8:53 am
In reply to what Mat Bond said:
Since the death of TBH is now leaning towards murder. The question is who killed him, and what is the motive/reason for killing him?
the 2 likely suspects is either as the conspiracy goes, BN, or DAP members who he will testify against.
so, basically, it is either, A. the MACC killed him, and are so stupid to cover up their crime. or B. the MACC are screw ups that a murderer can kill their key witness in their own office.
Please choose.
What we do know however is the MACC were inhumane at questioning Beng Hock at an ungodly hour of the night, do they want him to look like a panda during his wedding registration?
Bytheway, please… about sleeping on the sofa, this is the statement given by the people accused, it must be taken with a grain of salt.
As to the time of his death, the time has no relevence as to who or why they killed him. Unless you can prove it!
“but who asked him to do illegal things? his bos, the underworld? That is the one million question”
“The underworld”? Now you are hinting at a conspiracy.
September 4th, 2009 at 11:30 pm
Hello kawan, boleh tengok laporan Polis pasal saksi tahanan SPRM yang akan dibawa pada inkues 8 September ini. Lain kali tulis macam orang pandai sikit ok.
January 1st, 2010 at 8:28 pm
Are u saying that TBH’s death was just another unfortunate one.
Don’t you sense the mysteries surrounding it.
You are just a f up wirtter.Please improve your english.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:38 am
baracuda… please read disclaimer b4 cursing on my blog; u think only u can curse here – wait till me curse your ass off up to the roof!
March 14th, 2010 at 3:16 pm
I like your piece. Thank you.
July 23rd, 2010 at 9:32 pm
it’s a conspiracy.deal with it,people.someone was making sure that the cat won’t get out of the bag.my two cents though