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		<title>By: wahazaextra</title>
		<link>http://www.wahazaextra.com/2009/08/03/anti-isa-the-story-of-one-minority-melayu/comment-page-1/#comment-1329</link>
		<dc:creator>wahazaextra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 03:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TheDoer, one mistake of our current Government is some of the Minister is  not a PR ready;

Very2 poor indeed - some of our politician is not well educated on how to talk on press and how to handle topics that&#039;s crucial. That I&#039;ve to agree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TheDoer, one mistake of our current Government is some of the Minister is  not a PR ready;</p>
<p>Very2 poor indeed &#8211; some of our politician is not well educated on how to talk on press and how to handle topics that&#8217;s crucial. That I&#8217;ve to agree.</p>
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		<title>By: TheDoer</title>
		<link>http://www.wahazaextra.com/2009/08/03/anti-isa-the-story-of-one-minority-melayu/comment-page-1/#comment-1328</link>
		<dc:creator>TheDoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Aug 2009 00:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Wahazaextra, thanks for the reply.  I see where you are coming from.  I have not been part of these rallies before, hence I do not know of their crowd mentality.

The actions of some people can be quite disturbing, but they do not represent the whole. If you hold a rally, naturally there will be some uneducated fools who join along for the fun.

But what the rally stands for is indeed righteous. I have seen talks conducted by the opposition, and the subject matter they bring forth and I have also seen how the Government potray themselves.

Let&#039;s take the Bersih Rally as an example. During Aljazeerah&#039;s coverage on the event they interviewed both the opposition and the Government. The opposition representative, gave the reason for the demo objectively and what they hope to see improved.

When it&#039;s our Information Minister&#039;s turn, through the phone interview, you could hear him banging on the table, talking gibberish, and kept repeating that Foreigners have no right to question the way the Malaysian government does things. A stark contrast, one representing the &quot;unruly&quot; rioters and one representing MALAYSIA (though I wonder how he managed to represent me).

Well that aside, it is true that the crowd some times can get out of hand (eg. Mat Rempit gangs), but if the government had legalised the request to hold the rally, and escorted instead of chased down the participants. I am sure it will be a completely different story; and the people like you would gladly give up the trouble makers, am I wrong?

Now instead, they blocked their peaceful walk, and refused them the right to move on, of course the crowd will be agitated. 

If I may so quote: &quot;Disturbing the Hornet&#039;s Nest&quot;

The Government is basically asking for trouble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Wahazaextra, thanks for the reply.  I see where you are coming from.  I have not been part of these rallies before, hence I do not know of their crowd mentality.</p>
<p>The actions of some people can be quite disturbing, but they do not represent the whole. If you hold a rally, naturally there will be some uneducated fools who join along for the fun.</p>
<p>But what the rally stands for is indeed righteous. I have seen talks conducted by the opposition, and the subject matter they bring forth and I have also seen how the Government potray themselves.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s take the Bersih Rally as an example. During Aljazeerah&#8217;s coverage on the event they interviewed both the opposition and the Government. The opposition representative, gave the reason for the demo objectively and what they hope to see improved.</p>
<p>When it&#8217;s our Information Minister&#8217;s turn, through the phone interview, you could hear him banging on the table, talking gibberish, and kept repeating that Foreigners have no right to question the way the Malaysian government does things. A stark contrast, one representing the &#8220;unruly&#8221; rioters and one representing MALAYSIA (though I wonder how he managed to represent me).</p>
<p>Well that aside, it is true that the crowd some times can get out of hand (eg. Mat Rempit gangs), but if the government had legalised the request to hold the rally, and escorted instead of chased down the participants. I am sure it will be a completely different story; and the people like you would gladly give up the trouble makers, am I wrong?</p>
<p>Now instead, they blocked their peaceful walk, and refused them the right to move on, of course the crowd will be agitated. </p>
<p>If I may so quote: &#8220;Disturbing the Hornet&#8217;s Nest&#8221;</p>
<p>The Government is basically asking for trouble.</p>
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		<title>By: wahazaextra</title>
		<link>http://www.wahazaextra.com/2009/08/03/anti-isa-the-story-of-one-minority-melayu/comment-page-1/#comment-1324</link>
		<dc:creator>wahazaextra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TheDoer, thanks - Yeap, I only see it from a point of view of one Malay guy - since I&#039;m a Malay guy - I wrote this bcoz, I once participated in this kind of rally - however - there is clear indication between a demo by Stateless Malaysians and ANTI-ISA riot - first, majority of the Malay (matilah aku kena condemn for saying this) who participated in this event - hardly known the intellectual reference on the topics - most of them - either a crowd pleaser or just be there from a political based activities - It&#039;s obvious you can see all over the net about this matter - an AJK of this, a PEMUDA of that;

Mahatma Ghandi did the same thing, but Mahatma Ghandi preach educatedly what&#039;s the subject matter;

A lot of people argue, we have to do this since from rally is what revolution starts - however - as far I&#039;m concern as a Malay - when Malay gathered - a lot of more bad words comes out from their mouth - and the more sin they create when they have anger in themselves.

I&#039;ve witness myself how people destroyed things on the road just for sake of &#039;Allahuakhbar&#039; - it make me sick;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TheDoer, thanks &#8211; Yeap, I only see it from a point of view of one Malay guy &#8211; since I&#8217;m a Malay guy &#8211; I wrote this bcoz, I once participated in this kind of rally &#8211; however &#8211; there is clear indication between a demo by Stateless Malaysians and ANTI-ISA riot &#8211; first, majority of the Malay (matilah aku kena condemn for saying this) who participated in this event &#8211; hardly known the intellectual reference on the topics &#8211; most of them &#8211; either a crowd pleaser or just be there from a political based activities &#8211; It&#8217;s obvious you can see all over the net about this matter &#8211; an AJK of this, a PEMUDA of that;</p>
<p>Mahatma Ghandi did the same thing, but Mahatma Ghandi preach educatedly what&#8217;s the subject matter;</p>
<p>A lot of people argue, we have to do this since from rally is what revolution starts &#8211; however &#8211; as far I&#8217;m concern as a Malay &#8211; when Malay gathered &#8211; a lot of more bad words comes out from their mouth &#8211; and the more sin they create when they have anger in themselves.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve witness myself how people destroyed things on the road just for sake of &#8216;Allahuakhbar&#8217; &#8211; it make me sick;</p>
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		<title>By: TheDoer</title>
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		<dc:creator>TheDoer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 07:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your article is interesting, however I see no difference whether it was Melayu, Cina or India.

If you see Malaysia as being of 1 race. The issue is still the same, people disatisfied, they have a demo lead by a leader. there are some disturbance. Government react.

The question naturally lies on &quot;What are they disatisfied about?&quot; , &quot;How did they conduct their demo&quot; and &quot;How did the government react to it?&quot;

About the same time, as the recent Anti ISA rally.  Stateless Malaysians were holding their own demo in England. The difference is no water canon or tear gas was used on them and the government did not accuse them of scaring away investors.

Disruption caused by mass affairs is fairly common. During parades, shops and roads are closed too.  The only difference is, 1 crowd is being led by the police, another is being chased by them.

Mahatma Ghandi did the same thing in defying the british. If this is not a planned an intellectual way;

Please propose a solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your article is interesting, however I see no difference whether it was Melayu, Cina or India.</p>
<p>If you see Malaysia as being of 1 race. The issue is still the same, people disatisfied, they have a demo lead by a leader. there are some disturbance. Government react.</p>
<p>The question naturally lies on &#8220;What are they disatisfied about?&#8221; , &#8220;How did they conduct their demo&#8221; and &#8220;How did the government react to it?&#8221;</p>
<p>About the same time, as the recent Anti ISA rally.  Stateless Malaysians were holding their own demo in England. The difference is no water canon or tear gas was used on them and the government did not accuse them of scaring away investors.</p>
<p>Disruption caused by mass affairs is fairly common. During parades, shops and roads are closed too.  The only difference is, 1 crowd is being led by the police, another is being chased by them.</p>
<p>Mahatma Ghandi did the same thing in defying the british. If this is not a planned an intellectual way;</p>
<p>Please propose a solution.</p>
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		<title>By: Muid Latif</title>
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		<dc:creator>Muid Latif</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 05:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I told most of my friends recently that rallies never provide any solution. There&#039;s always an intellectual way by doing proper planning and strategy. People seems to prefer the most &#039;simple&#039; way of doing things, end up in this uproar which I&#039;m agree to your article. Most irritating is when they use &#039;religion&#039; to shield themselves when their objective and mission is to satisfy their political need and to prove to everyone they are heroes who fight for humanity, but result to property damages and waste people time, money and effort.
.-= Muid Latif´s last blog ..&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.behance.net/Gallery/Beast-2006/270047&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Beast 2006&lt;/a&gt; =-.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I told most of my friends recently that rallies never provide any solution. There&#8217;s always an intellectual way by doing proper planning and strategy. People seems to prefer the most &#8216;simple&#8217; way of doing things, end up in this uproar which I&#8217;m agree to your article. Most irritating is when they use &#8216;religion&#8217; to shield themselves when their objective and mission is to satisfy their political need and to prove to everyone they are heroes who fight for humanity, but result to property damages and waste people time, money and effort.<br />
.-= Muid Latif´s last blog ..<a href="http://www.behance.net/Gallery/Beast-2006/270047" rel="nofollow">Beast 2006</a> =-.</p>
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		<title>By: The Car Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Anti-ISA – the story of one minority Melayu.</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Car Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Anti-ISA – the story of one minority Melayu.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 09:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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